FIFA Ultimate Team chemistry and morale
We always test all parts of each FIFA game as every one has differences. UT has a thing called chemistry and also player morale. Basically means how well people get on with each other and how happy they are. Or at least it should mean this. We have been looking at team chemistry and individual chemistry. While testing it in previous versions we realised how important morale is and fitness. Also which positions the players like to play in outside of UT. Check this in an offline exhibition game before you buy players so HULK actually likes LW/RW/ST. We always use him as ST when not testing the game 🙂
So this is how we tested everything trying to use scientific controls and variables rather than just deciding. Obviously the opponents online have different levels of FIFA ability but we know how everything is affecting our players. We have played over 150 games purely testing this with no other internet devices switched on to give best connection possible. If you don’t understand everything below or just want the results just read the conclusion at the bottom of the page ha. We also recored lots of games and will attempt to create videos giving examples. We took some real beatings and some people were recording at the time too ha.
The control used was 4-1-2-1-2 formation, Team rated 79-81, Play >10 games with >90 fitness, Neutral morale, 95 or higher chemistry and every player 9 chemistry, Players in correct positions and formation, Played between 7pm-10pm UK time, In the Gold cup only.
Then varied the following (meaning only changing each of below in turn compared to the original control) –
- 2 attacking players in wrong formation but correct position and 9 chemistry from players around them.
- 2 attacking players in correct formation but wrong position with 9 chemistry from players around them.
- 2 attacking players from different leagues both with 0 chemistry, wrong formation and wrong position.
- 2 attacking players from different leagues both with 2 chemistry, correct formation but wrong position.
- 2 attacking players from different leagues both with 4 chemistry, correct formation and position.
- Less than 70 overall chemistry. Used all different players from various leagues so players had less chemistry but in correct formation and position.
- Less than 70 overall chemistry. Added a few players from various leagues in wrong formation and position.
- Less than 50 overall chemistry. Players from various leagues in wrong formation and position.
Morale in Ultimate team
To then test how morale affects players in Ultimate Team. – We made sure we used the same 2 players from different leagues as above which were actually Dembele CAM playing LM (0 to 4 chem) and Zarate CF playing CAM (0 to 4 chem) in a Russian/Brazilian hybrid in 4-1-2-1-2. We added morale cards to make sure they were Very high and actually at 100. Then played again under the different variables to see if they improved and by how much.
Conclusion
The results were very interesting compared to FIFA 12 where we were able to use teams and players with no chemistry and still pass the ball perfectly and win games easy. A bit different in FIFA 13 where we found only one part of chemistry very important and that was overall team chemistry. Individual chemistry didn’t make a big difference that we could see. Obviously to have a strong team chemistry you need quite a lot of player chemistry but the two we used without were not affected when in the correct formation. From all of our testing there were three things which were key to the players being in the correct position on the pitch, have good passing, dribbling and shooting.
1. Overall team chemistry. The lower this was the worse the team played and individuals if they had chemistry or not. Yes we managed to win some games but against poor opposition. Against better players we were generally beaten easily.
2. Formation of the player. If this was correct the players played better and the two we used with no chemistry really stood out when they were the wrong formation. Passing was very bad in all the games compared to the other players and the first touch was awful. Shooting too.
3. Player morale. The thing that made the biggest difference throughout all the testing for us. When we changed the morale to 100 for the two players they totally dominated games compared to players around them with 9 chem but only neutral morale. As long as they had correct formation that is.
So we would suggest making sure you cover these 3 things and that the fitness is 90+ and the players you have like to play in that position outside of UT (shown top of the page with Hulk example).
TWO important things to note.
1. You can change your formation and player positions after the game starts and chemistry isn’t affected. So you could start Hulk as RM then move him to striker after 5 mins or so 🙂
2. If a player is much better at FIFA than you it is likely they would have a good chance of beating you with no chemistry or morale etc. However making sure you have the best performance of your players will make a difference against them and other players who are as good as you. Worse players you should win easily but don’t forget football and FIFA does throw up some shocks. Make sure you followed our guide on winning at FIFA too.
Now people might disagree with our chemistry findings, lots sure did in FIFA 12 where we felt it simply didn’t make enough difference to our game – https://fifaaddiction.com/3055/fifa-ultimate-team-chemistry-myth. In the end we bought players in the cheapest formations we could find and simply put them into the formation we preferred using. Which in FIFA 12 was 3-5-2.
Also to check player chemistry before you buy for your team use the FUTHead website. Although we have found some differences between the chemistry on the webapp, the game itself and FUThead. Seems to be an EA fault.
I want to ask. I made my starting squad out of Spanish players, chemistry is 100. But now I think maybe should i go building a squad not with nationality, but all squad players from ONE league so there would be more players for me that i can choose from, and the chemistry still would be 100. Can you give me an advice what is the best way to create squad chemistry from 1 club, league or nationality???
Other things i know how chemistry is affected, by position, other players which surrounds each other etc.
Build teams around players you want then worry about chemistry. You will get strong chemistry if all same league or nationality so up to you. As you say more choice with league.
what is your own opinion, more player to choose are in league or with nationality?
if i have for example iniesta in a 433 lw on the bench of my 4231 liga bbva team if i bring him or anyone for that matter off the bench onto the pitch will he get full chem 9 chem play as good etc?
*If you can’t be bothered to read my entire comment – to summarise – CHEMISTRY IS JUST ANOTHER WAY EA TRICK PEOPLE OUT OF MONEY – its effects are imperceivable, but we can assume overall team chemistry 100 means your players are using 100% of their abilities (provided all the players’ fitnesses/morales are 100% too).*
Although I appreciate your endeavours to attempt scientific tests, it is impossible to test scientifically, especially versus random people/teams/formations online.
You could be playing against the world’s best FIFA ‘pro’ one match, then an autistic brat (with his starter pack bronze team) the next. You’d need to play online against the same person/team (a friend), but even then both players’ skill at playing FIFA13 would improve/fluctuate during the tests.
NB – Everyone needs to check out the (standard) UT players’ abilities in single-player/offline mode (as seen by looking to buy players in Career Mode>Manager).The abilities are the same, they are just non-viewable in UT, but they are there (some of these hidden abilities are actually shown when you’re choosing a set piece-taker).
After doing this I concluded the best Strikers are: Ronaldo, Messi, Aguero, DiNatale, Eto’o. You’ll also notice that Micah Richards is a good choice as a bargain CB (In UT he’s a RB, but he also likes CB and has good defensive abilities, but with much greater pace than most – don’t worry about the out of position chemistry.
People are obsessed by increasing their chances of winning, much to EA’s delight (spoilt brats and weird adults must be giving them £millions, hence EA scrapping DRM). But
latency is the biggest factor in winning/losing in Ultimate Team online. The difference in ability between Messi (£1M?) and Aguero (£75K?) is negligible (Messi’s right foot is only 3/5 – 60% of his left!? Ronaldo is easily the best player – £4M?). My mate (D-Pad movement) using the worst team (UCD Dublin) actually beat my other mate who was using Chelsea (Analogue stick movement), when matches seem quite close whatever the teams, usually…Ok, Chelsea-boy usually loses, LOL…It proves that D-Pad movement is best and player ability differentials kind of get limited by AI. Tonight he lost his 8th Gold Cup Final, and has never won it! He’s the type who still claims to be the best, despite the results, often blaming me for somehow altering the tactics when he’s struggling, even though altering the Custom Tactics in UT does very little (it mainly controls the team’s style of play when the team is fully controlled by the computer, not that I’d changed it anyway). I’m like the Director of Football, so I know all about player abilities, who to buy, and all about making money from trading items…If it wasn’t for me Defoe & Bent would still be his strike force (although he doesn’t accept that truth either). The team I’ve compiled for his ‘Chelsea’ (Man City, LOL) UT is: Cech; A. Cole; Maicon; Terry (Too slow/unfit! His choice, not mine! Micah Richards is better, or David Luiz); Kompany; Y. Toure; Hazard (David Silva is better?); Bale; Rooney; Aguero; Torres (His choice! I’d have DiNatale, as we’ll never afford Ronaldo or Messi).
However, I considered heading accuracy for the STs, but in reality all players’ ability to score headers is ZERO/99, since EA patched the game very soon after release and basically turned headed goals OFF (scoring near-post headers from corners was very easy originally)!
I also bought the absolute ultimate England League 1 Bronze team, which includes Slew, Powell, McQuoid, McSheffery, Barcham, Pearce, etc (Using Manager Mode to compare players and see their ‘hidden’ abilities). All the players I signed are 41212, as it is the best formation (hence the most expensive too) and I also strongly advise using the D-Pad for movement and having Team Mate Contain on Square, Tackle on L2, R2 Jockey, and Contain on X.
i play with 4-2-3-1 and just bought neymar to play him at left attacking mid his card is as a lm should I play him as such or as a lw or it doesn’t make a difference, thanks.
I Will changes Neymar
just say i have a full serie a team and in game i replace balotelli (milan) for aguero will aguero be on 9 chem even though he wont have any good links?
No Aguerro is wrong league to have 9 chemistry.
I’m sorry, but this is a bit off topic.
Are my coins from FUT 13 available on FUT 14?
I know the players wont be, but all that time put into trading and making coins.
I Hope they will be available in FUT 14.
Thanks for your help.
no its not 🙂
I have lavezzi and changed him from lw to lf, i wanted to use him at a st position with remy(om) next to him and lucas(psg) at cam. He only gets 3 chemistry while i tought it would be 7 how is this possible?
Depends on formation. In game sometimes chemistry shows wrong. Just bring him off bench no worries then.
will this squad play good? http://www.futhead.com/fifa/squads/8857363/#squad-player
For a player to have 7 chem instead of 9 how will they play
We think they play great. You only get a tiny difference between 7 and 9. More important they have very high morale.
Hello,
So i Have the SIF Marco Reus, i want to use him as a ST in the 3-5-2 formation.
As you know, he is a LM. I tried changing his position to LF, but i only get 7 chem.
Do you think its better to change him back to LM, then bring him off the bench to ST position?
Or leave him as a LF with 7 chem.
Also, how long after the game started can i bring him in off the bench to maintain the 9 chem, if he was in the LM position.
Thanks for tha help 🙂
7 chem be fine. We use players with 5 chem still get man of match.
Yes i have a bpl squad the formaition is 4-3-3 i was going to get an itailian to be on my squad but he is from serie A i am worried if i get him because it will affect my play but will it affect my team ?
He is a midfielder
My chemistry is 100 but if i buy the itailian it will be 95 would that make a difference?
If you are good at FIFA chemistry isn’t as important as you think it is. See our latest blog Pogba in CB only has 5 chemistry but is excellent.
Hi, I’m a veteran FIFA player and can help clean up a problem people might have. Firstly, I have just over 4.1 million coins and my record stands at 734-21-109 so at least hear what I have to say! 🙂 Chemistry represents a number to help calculate your players’ in-game stats. 7 chemistry is the average of amount of stats, therefore having your player on 7 chemistry means you will be playing with the stats that you read off of your player’s card. Having him on maximum chemistry (9) will give his stats a little boost, which can be seen by pausing the game, going to team management as if you would make a sub and then right-clicking over the player to bring up his stats. Obviously that means if you have a player below 7 chemistry his in-game stats will thus slightly/greatly (depending on how little the chemistry) decrease. I like playing a 4-3-3 with Ronaldo LW Messi ST and Hazard RW with Mata in CM behind Hazard to give him 5 chem. He still plays brilliantly even though lacking a few stats off of what his 9 chemistry version would be. Hope this helps you guys, peace out!
Hi Im playing formation 4-1-2-1-2 and I want Nani and Hazard in team. Obviously problem is they position LM, If i put Nani or Hazard to RM they have 5 chem. My all team got 100 but I don’t know, player who has 5 chem plays badly or what ?
We like team chemistry to be 100 and morale to be very high. Don’t worry too much about player chemistry
Sánchez on the right wing*
One thing I’ve found is that individual chem for the keeper seems to be quite important. I can honestly say I’ve felt the difference between a 9 chem keeper, and a 7 chem one.
What if I put Neymar (LW) as ST off the bench to an italian 100% chemistry team and everybody is a 9 chemistry, will he play just as good?
Yes
Hello!
My team is all 9 chemestry but i want to bring on a player from a totally different league… for istance bringing Ibra to a BPL team.
I’ll manage to still having 100 chemestry, but his individual chemestry will fall to 5 to 6 i think…
This situation will reduce his effectiveness/quality even if the team chemestry is 100%?
Or if it stills 100% doesnt matter the individual chemestry?
Thanks in advance
Does not matter after start of game.
Ok, but if i choose to start the game with him in the lineup… it`ll affects his quality?
Otherwise i`ll need always to stop and substitute in the begining to avoid it.
We only think morale and overall team chemistry is important. Try him and see how he plays with full morale from the start.
I want to play a 4-2-3-1 squad with Liga BBVA players. Ideal would be Messi CF, Di Maria Right Cam and Ronaldo Left Cam. Is that possible?
Thanks!
Yes if not too bothered about chemistry.
Hi, i have two 100 chemistry teams. I bought both of them like 2 days ago, and every player has 9 chemistry. But they both play like they have about 50-75 chemistry. It´s really frustrating, do you know any way to fix this? Please help.
Buy a team morale card might help
i want to play IF neymar as a lone striker with no links giving 6 chem. how different would 6 chem neymar be from 7 chem or 9 chem. team chem is 100
Start him on the bench and bring him on after the start.
Hi, I play a 4-1-2-1-2 formation and my CDM isn’t the strongest (M’Vila 82) and has 5 player chemistry. I was thinking about getting Yaya Toure. He would have a 3 player chemistry. When you tested, player chemistry didn’t mean much. As long as my team chem stays 100 do you think I should get him?
Yes he is best CDM on the game.
Thanks, bought him and he fits nicely. Strength is really useful as a CDM, division 1 title here I come! 😀
I want to play IF David Luiz as a CB, however, he only gets 5 Chemistry. I assume this will influence his playing skills on the pitch. Is it possible to start another CB and substitute Luiz? Of course without any lost of performance.
Yes bring him on as sub then doesn’t affect chemistry.
So i got IF kolarov at LB, but cuz i use 3-5-2, he only gets 5 chem. Im worried that he wont play well. My overall team chem is 97 (with manager), so my question is will he play badly with 5 chem?
We used Pogba a CDM as CB with 5 chem and won Div 1 first attempt with him.
What about the color of the links between players? Does it matter if the chemistry is maximized ?
If for example all my players have 9 in chemistry but some links are red, does it have a negative effect or is it the same as having 9 in chemistry and all links green?
Hard to have 9 chemistry and red links? As long as team chem is high and morale and players like the position doesn’t matter.
Hello there!
I was wondering, if i want to use neymar as LW but i still want to use Robinho, so i tought about using him as a RW but his chems will drop to 7, as long as he is at the right formation, he will play as good as he was at LW? on the player stats says that he likes the RW..thank you.
Yes he will be fine there. Or bring him off bench!
thank you!
want to use Neymar as a striker but dont wanna pay 800,000+ coins got him as LM in 41212 chem is saying 3 on the webapp or is the 800,000 IF Neymar worth the £££
In Forms generally not worth the crazy prices. Normal Neymar is awesome.
Hi there, I hope you can answer my question.
I use a 4-3-3 formation with a BundesLiga attack and a serie A defense. I got it so that everyone has 9chem and overall is 100, well almost. I have an attack composed of Barnetta(bundes/swiss),Shaqiri(bundes/swiss) and Reus (bundes/german). The problem is that i havent changed Reus from CF to ST yet so his chem is only 7. Ive noticed that hes been missing a lot of easy chances. Does the 7chem make stats for shot/strength/pace etc decrease?
As long as right formation will be fine. Problem is Reus is actually not a very good finisher in FIFA. Very quick and strong so need to power shots to near post with him.
If I make a sub during an FUT match or change the formation when all players are 9 chem and team has 100%, is the chem locked into pre-match stats or does it change with your changes?
*Question in regards to getting the most out of IBRA with mostly BBVA or Prem players :/
When you make changes after start it makes no difference to chemistry.
no chance lol my moral is always at its highest especially when i buy a new team i buy a gold squad fitness and team-talk :)))
in fact i never use a player under 93 fitness and if i loose a few games and notice passes going stray i use a team-talk card so moral is always VH.
i do change my team A LOT though lol
Is overall team chemistry more important that a single player’s team chemistry? If a player is in a wrong position but correct formation and say has 5 chem instead of 9, but overall team chemistry is 100, will the player still play as if he had 9 chem?
That is our view as above.
not 100% sure on this, but, ive noticed that every time i buy a new team it seem to take a game or 2 for the squad to bond???? have you noticed this ??? pretty sure its right but it could just be me lol
You sure that isn’t just player morale? Improves as they win. Needs to be 90 + for top performance.
If I made a chelsea squad on ultimate team with the formation 4231 and played hazard in the left sided CAM position would he play well? He will only have 5 chem but everyone else will have 9 chemistry, btw great website, thanks
Yes he would but would suggest Mata left and Hazard middle 🙂
Just wondering, and this may get fixed ingame at some point but on FIFA 12, Lm/Rm would get an Orange boot at CAM, (4-2-3-1) but on FUT13 they do not and therefore only get 9 chemistry. How will this affect my players? I have Young, Nani and Valencia to play in a 4-2-3-1 formation (United fan – united Team :D) I want to use them but I want them to play well? :/
Did they really get orange in FIFA 12? It has changed if so for FIFA 13. As above 9 chemistry not important anyway ours played well with 2 chemistry.
on the web app they get orange but on console they get red???? weird!!!!!
Its all a bit screwed really. Probably why our results confirmed player chemistry is actually not important.
so would you play whatever player you want from mixed leagues in same formation and it dosnt make a difference??
right so, i got £1.3b to spend on a new team. ive tried pretty much all the formations with my only preference to have a amc or cf in the hole…
ive always loved 352 but find that im getting caught out by people using speed abuse (grrrrrr) i like to get the ball up the pitch pretty quick but tend to pass my way up without using loads of through balls tried 451 and 4411 which work pretty good but sometimes i pushed back with no way out of defence.
what league and team would you buy in what formation (and dont say 4231 lol) ???
Hi, I have a question, what happens if I change the formation during the game to a different formation, for instance, I start the game with 5-2-1-2 and 100% chemistry, then I change it to 3-5-2 during the game, does the chemistry of the players or the teams get affected???
Need to add that thanks. You can change the formation and positions of players after kick off doesn’t affect chemistry.
What about bringing a player from the bench, by instance will eto’o play with a chemistry of 9 if I bring him to my team after the kick off and he is in surrounded by players from a different league and a different country???
If correct this is huge news.!
I have got Messi and Ronaldo in my Fifa 13 UT. And I am losing matches more than before.
The formation is 4-4-2 and unfortunately I can improve chemistry of Ronaldo who does not like to play along with Messi and by no means cannot be converted from LW to ST.
What can I do?
Put Benzema next to him and Ozil behind him. Messi isn’t as good so get rid of him.
So, was there any difference if you used:
-wrong formation but 9 chem
and
-right formation and 9 chem?
Yes right formation with any chem was better than wrong formation and 9 chem.
I was hoping you could clear some things up if possible. 1 as long as the formation and morale are correct and high the player in question will excel at only the positions listed outside of UT like Hulk would be good at any of the 3 pos. you pointed out above correct? 2, Does your bench at all have any affect on overall team chemistry? If so, is it just the 7 subs or everyone on your bench? Last thing, I heard that you were able to save custom formations for UT when created in the game. Whenever I create a custom formation during a match it works, but when I start the 2nd match it’s gone and I have to do it all over again. Is there a way to just have it saved as my default or even as an option to have just in case because it’s permanently really annoying having to pause it every time and do something i’ve already done many times. The last question is the one that’s really bothering me the most. thanks for the help